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Last Post By: Coops ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:55 am
Topic By: Coops ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:55 am
Nice One!

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Sirius.. Again there was another post previously in which all the jobs carried out by people who use this forum were listed aside from the actual managment or coaching roles they undertake.. (I recall it was quite a long list as well)..

Wonder if SAF has to pick up dog turds off Old Trafford pitch? (Cue UnluckyManc)

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:49 am

Mourinhosapprentice wrote:
Sorry I have to ask you if thats the way you feel why do you even bother to reply. You can spend more time on your "investigation" on mysterious MA



I think that'll do me on the forum for a while. Clearly I've gone a bit OTT and irritated serveral people so I'll leave it to die down.

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: Sirius ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:46 am
Jay your right, but it's further muddled in our world of Grassroots footie when you have some poor soley who is actually Manager, Coach and jack of all trades.

It is not uncommon for the Manager to take the coaching sessions as well which is where some of the confusion comes in.

Some squads are lucky to have seperate people doign the differign roles - I have seen soem clubs where the "Manager" as no idea of Coaching but just fulfills all the Admin duties and it works fine.

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:43 am
Without trying to take it 'off topic' this also goes back to a previous discussion about the differing roles of coaches and managers.

Often they are looked at in the same way (and many parts can and do actually merge into both categories) but they can also be seperate issues and some of the best coaches cannot actually manage a team whilst the same can be said about the other way around too.

IMO, alot of the confusion comes from the various terminology used sometimes on here getting mis-interpretted.

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: Mourinhosapprentice ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:41 am

Yet MA still appears for some reason to crave the overwhelming support from our ranks, and frankly gets pretty irked when it's not always that forthcoming.

Why bother ??

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: we1shnewby ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:05 am

currynchips wrote:Welshy - I started 'managing' at 17, after assisting for maybe 6 months. I'd say by 21, I was decent enough to actually manage. Prior to that, I really should have been just a coach, because of all the other 'important' things in my life at that time. The funny thing is though, at 26 I have no desire at all to manage, only to coach!

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: we1shnewby ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:01 am
Now I've read thru the latest posts since my last visit, i'm even less convinced by the "forced" to play players theory. MA says on one hand his club is lax - yet he gets the praise he craves for his/her results and attracting new players. I wonder if he/she simultaneously puts equal emphasis on the players he "loses" to accomodate the newcomers, or indeed gives a tuppenny fig about the impact his/her decisions may have on the cast offs?

Clubs are fickle things - If his/her currently lax club became a little more fervent in offering an element of equity to its' members and chose to employ a policy which may be more "user friendly" would MA go with it on the basis of a "club decision made by its' members" or have a tant and walk away and do their best to take "his/her" players to a club where MA could exercise their personal preference for a results oriented regime??

Whilst i'm at it, a few weeks back MA posted his/her clubs code of conduct or modus operandii if you prefer. I recall commenting at the time i found it a little "too professional" - and felt then that it fitted MA's overall approach a little "too perfectly".

At a club with such an astonishingly professional approach i'm frankly amazed that MA should disclose that his club is "lax" in its' application. I rather expected MA to eventually "come out" as it were as a coach at a prem club masquerading as being interested in our views - or indeed a famed FA "mole" on the boards. I'm not so sure now. IMO, judging by the coc previously posted, MA may well be a small part of a very large big city club.

The OP again seeks to justify his/her position in support his FCA and indeed his/her own philosophy, and yet derides his/her own clubs chairman by associating them with an "uncompetitive" chairman at the club his/her FCA recently left. This is an unsual comment bearing in mind the "praise" he/she gets from his/her club in later posts.

I'm beginning to consider the possibilty that "mourinhosapprentice" is the creation of someone who believes they have the answer to the future of the game, but is perhaps just a tad too reliant on the purported support of everyone he/she ever comes into contact with in the game in its justification. Yet MA still appears for some reason to crave the overwhelming support from our ranks, and frankly gets pretty irked when it's not always that forthcoming.

Why bother ??

MA has the answers - he/she keeps telling those of us who think otherwise, and trying to convert us to the dog eat dog approach. Why not just get on with it? If his is the right way why bother with losers who in general have different opinions.

When MA has proved to everyone that his/her chosen route is more beneficial to the kids who want to play football he will be able to give me and others the 2 fingered salute with some justification. We all leave ourselves open to persuasion by posting our thoughts and experiences here. Rarely do many of us seek to justify what we post so fervently as MA does.

As Jay says early in the piece it is just "same old same old".

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: currynchips ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:00 am
Welshy - I started 'managing' at 17, after assisting for maybe 6 months. I'd say by 21, I was decent enough to actually manage. Prior to that, I really should have been just a coach, because of all the other 'important' things in my life at that time. The funny thing is though, at 26 I have no desire at all to manage, only to coach!

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Last Post By: JaySav ON: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 am
Topic By: Sirius ON: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:53 pm

Mourinhosapprentice wrote:Intresting comment from you JaySav - I think you are suggesting that I have created an addition fictional profile to enhance my own argument. I hope that was a joke. Moderators if you have the resources avalible please confirm that is not the case!.