Team walking off - rules

[we1shnewby]

I had one of my under 11's punched we reported it to both league and county fa and both did nothing but blame the my kids for getting hit . You get the feeling they sit on the fence

One that is probably the widest and sturdiest fence ever constructed! !!

Unless a league official is present in an independent capacity it is always 1v1. With no admissions of guilt what chance is there of a balanced decision being reached?

[jmc09]

Unless a league official is present in an independent capacity it is always 1v1. With no admissions of guilt what chance is there of a balanced decision being reached?[/quote]

Unless you are a ref when its usually 1 ref v 30 managers,officials,spectators etc!

[Topcoach]

the ref - be it a "proper" ref or a parent has all the powers of a proper ref and all the duties , powers and responsibilities that go along with it.

The parent who started a row with the ref could be reported for it and in general the club of the team that walked off could be brought up on a failure to control their players or officials type charge if your ref reports the matter to the local FA not the league who will probably gloss over it.

However, reading between the lines - and I may be wrong - your ref missed two clear fouls? - I suppose my challenge would be is he a "homer" and did that attitude contribute to the overall problem?

[Sirius]

However, reading between the lines - and I may be wrong - your ref missed two clear fouls? - I suppose my challenge would be is he a "homer" and did that attitude contribute to the overall problem?

understand your comment, but give the ref respect full stop.

Ok how about this - yesterday our very qualifies ref didn't show (car broke down) - so we looked for volunteers mmmmmmm thin on the ground, but yes one lad early 20's step forward - thanks very much. Fair easy game to ref nothing much going on, but poor ref got a full on ear full from the oppo linesman at half time and full time...........I am sure he meant thanks for stepping in lad I didn't fancy the job myself which is why I run the line, but that was good of you - maybe he got tongue tied?

[CoachAndy]

Unless a league official is present in an independent capacity it is always 1v1. With no admissions of guilt what chance is there of a balanced decision being reached?

I think this may vary from league to league. My wife is league secretary and attends nearly all of our eldest sons games, but she is only there as a parent and not in an official capacity. Even though she has witnessed, porr refereeing, cheating linesman and coaches, parents and coaches over stepping the mark. She cant do anything about it because she is there as a parent.

This is done from a safety aspect for the league officials, so nobody can say to them (althought they do) your on the league - do something about it.

When she attends a game in an official capacity, which happens at random games from time to time, she has to let the managers know who she is, wear her league badge and jacket. Even then with the obvious attendance people still act like muppets, but its at this stage that she can take action and report individuals or teams.

In my first season coaching, a coach of an older age group (u14) regularly took his team off (6 times that season) and on all but one of those occasions he lost the points at the hearing, although each time it was done with child protection in mind. A submitted referees report helped him out on the other one and the game got replayed.

[Sirius]

Andy I do understand the position but..............she is there and she does sit on the League thus do you not think there is an obligation to do something after the game – I mean we managers/coaches etc get berated time and time again for doing nothing yet we are not the ones in charge and can only report?

[CoachAndy]

Andy I do understand the position but..............she is there and she does sit on the League thus do you not think there is an obligation to do something after the game – I mean we managers/coaches etc get berated time and time again for doing nothing yet we are not the ones in charge and can only report?

The way the league committee look at it is that there are avenues for coaches/ managers or referees to make a complaint. Referees (qualified or not) can submit a report about a game to the local fa, managers and coaches if they feel a Referee has not had control of game they can score him appropriately (50 lor below in our case) and submit a report on why they have scored him so low.

But far to many coaches/managers (and club secretaries who want an easy life so alter a coaches score) want the best of both worlds and want to moan and complain but arent afraid to write a report when incidents happen, instead they pass the buck and if a league representive is there watching there child play - its the easy way out. Or they score the Referee 51 because they think they are making a point.

So your right you can only report? But too many dont and thats all a league representative could do - is to report It would then be at a seperate meeting that a decision would be made. So why should it lay at their door when they have gone to a game to watch a sibling. After all most if not all are volunteers too......

Take my wife, she has a full time job, three children (four counting me) and including meetings probably spends about 12 hours a week on league business, in the coming weeks with cup finals that will rise to nearer 30. Bet there arent many coaches putting that amount of unpaid work hours in so that kids can play football.

[Sirius]

Andy the problem is an ever decreasing circle argument – coaches/managers give up putting reports in when there is no apparent action from leagues etc – this sort of apathy is made worse when they see a League official at a game (no matter what capacity they are attending) and still nothing happens when they see it with their own eyes